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The Sun's not yellow it's chicken

JTEM whining about this & that, plus the secrets of the universe and the occasional chicken recipe.
Jul 24 '14

somenoiseforthemind asked:

We're using definitions for many words, and there is nothing wrong with that. Just like the school I am going to is defined as an institution where kids like me go to learn (in a simple way). A teacher is a teacher, not a baker. A baker is a baker, not a teacher. An atheist is an atheist, not an agnostic. A supernova is a supernova a dying star, not a bird singing in the morning. The Sun is a star and not a yellow chicken. Without definitions how would you describe the world we're living in?
Jul 24 '14

tannermiller asked:

agnosticism and atheism are mutually exclusive. One has to do with beliefs, one has to do with knowledge.

somenoiseforthemind:

theraginghottruth:

It seems that you appear to lack an understanding of what agnosticism or atheism actually entail. Please watch the following, as it explains quite clearly how both work, and how they can fit together:

     I saw this video, but with all due respect this won’t change my point of view on atheism and agnosticism. What this video is telling me is that basically atheism gives a chance for a supreme entity, creator, or let’s name it god (not necessarily the christian God). To me this does not make any sense, since atheism is simply denying the exitence of any deity. We can make it look nicer, or acceptable, or add something to it every year from now on, but that won’t change the precise atheistic view: there is no deity. This video is trying to befriend or unite the atheistic view with the agnostic one, in a nice, lovely, dramatic way (that’s what can touch the heart, right?). Honestly this won’t change my view, I will stay an “oldschool” atheist ~even if I’m young~, and I will never leave a door open for any deity, no matter if it’s an unknown (agnosticism) one. 
To me atheism will be by definition:
Koine Greek (ἄθεος - atheos) : one who disdains or denies God or the gods and their laws, god-denier, atheist
 and agnosticism will be:
Koine Greek (αγνωστος · agnostos) : to that which is unknown because of lack of information, unknown [BGAG 3rd Edition]

So me as an atheist, I am denying the existence of any deity. This is what atheism means to me and this is how every dictionary and encyclopaedia defines it. If someone wants to give it some colors, everyone is free to do what they want, and believe in what/who they want, but again that won’t change what “pure”, “raw” atheism is (to me). Agnosticism gives a chance, a possibility for a deity, supreme being to exist, on the other hand atheism doesn’t. We can combine everything we want, like satanistic christianity, muslim buddhism, muslim catholicism, catholic shamanism and so on, but these won’t change the core of the system.   

It has been explained to me many, many times:

See, atheists have the right to define the word “Atheism” any way they please, or so I’m told. They’re not confined to some outmoded dictionary definition (which we all know is wrong anyway).  So by calling themselves “Atheists,” though technically they may be anything BUT, they have the right to define the word “Atheism” in such a way that now includes them… because atheists pick how the word “Atheism” is defined, and they’re atheists so they can define it… to make them atheists.

I bet you think I’m kidding.  Boy, are you wrong…

Jul 24 '14

tannermiller asked:

agnosticism and atheism are mutually exclusive. One has to do with beliefs, one has to do with knowledge.

thedregs:

theraginghottruth:

somenoiseforthemind:

academicatheism:

Look up agnosticism and atheism. Then look up agnostic atheism. Seriously, this is basic. It’s a waste of time trying to explain something so basic to obstinate people. It can’t be this hard to change an opinion. This is like a day old already. You’re wrong. Get over it. The fact that another person agrees with your idiotic opinion doesn’t change the fact that it’s an idiotic opinion. Agnosticism and (a)theism are not mutually exclusive.

I really do think the asker is right. Agnostic atheism is non-sense, is something like astrology compared to astronomy. If you are an atheist there is no point in being agnostic, when atheism clearly denies, refuses the existence of any deity. If you don’t believe in the existence of a deity, then there is no logic in believing he might exist, but we don’t know in what form or shape as an agnostic would say. Believing, or leaving the door open for an uknown deity is not atheism. Of course it’s cool to combine all these definitions and act all intelligent, and call people idiots, but there is absoiutely no logic in agnostic atheism. 

It seems that you appear to lack an understanding of what agnosticism or atheism actually entail. Please watch the following, as it explains quite clearly how both work, and how they can fit together:

I have been seeing this argument in my dash go back and forth and though I have largely removed myself from interweb atheism, I just can’t take it anymore. The video above is quite clear in what agnostic atheism (or agnostic theism, gnostic theism, gnostic atheism) means.

Yeah, it means people will go to any lengths in order to co-opt a label that simply does not apply to them. 

Look.  The online world is littered with heterosexual “Queers,” male militant feminists, white “Social Justice” bed wetters (”Cultural Appropriation!!!”)  and agnostics (if not out right believers) who call themselves atheists. If you were wondering: 

No.  It comes as no surprise that any of you would make such efforts, perform such contortions — as demonstrated by the video — in order to justify your little fantasy.

Jul 24 '14
"The world is a stage: Charge admission!"
The 178th Rule of Acquisition (apocryphal)
Jul 24 '14

Shower Porn CIV

Top:  Shower stall extreme

Bottom:  If it weren’t for the glass (cleaning nightmare), this might be perfect.

Jul 24 '14
This must be the Health Food section.

This must be the Health Food section.

Jul 24 '14
Jul 24 '14
Classy doesn’t get any bigger
These are 32 ounce bottles — two pints each.

Classy doesn’t get any bigger

These are 32 ounce bottles — two pints each.