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The Sun's not yellow it's chicken

JTEM whining about this & that, plus the secrets of the universe and the occasional chicken recipe.
Oct 11 '12
betterthingstodothandrugs:

The word guilty is loaded, it implies wrongdoing. Yet the fact remains the majority of black men incarcerated are in that position for non-violent crimes. Namely possession and distribution.


JTEM:
What would you think of a white man going into a black neighborhood and distributing drugs? You’d say he was exploiting the people. You’d say he was enslaving them to drugs, all to enrich himself.
You’d be right.
Illegal drugs is an extremely violent industry. You can’t separate violence from the drug trade, you just can’t. And I’m not talking about the lives ruined by drugs, the families devastated by drug use — the people enslaved to drugs, the exploitation of misery. I’m talking about the intentional criminal violence on top of that — murder, muggings and other violent crime.
There’s the crime committed by people trying to support their drug habits. There’s the violence between suppliers and the police, “turf” struggles between dealers and even whole sale murder by the cartels. You’re selling drugs and you’re part of that — no excuses. You are part of all that and you chose to be a part of all that.
And, yeah, you just confirmed my point about people not being innocent. They’re guilty. They’re in prison and they deserve to be there. They don’t get a pass because of their skin color. Nobody does.

Also being a prisoner throughout history has been synonymous with being a slave.

No. I mean it. You’re demeaning those who suffered under slavery — those who are suffering right now — by pretending that putting convicted criminals to work is anything like slavery.

Nobody is advocating that we pay inmates. Nobody is advocating we let rapists or murderers run free.

Then you have no call to action, do you?

What you’re saying is we should stick with the status-quo.

I made it quite clear that I DON’T support the status quo, that I believe that our entire criminal justice system should be overhauled. I was just pointing out that these prison laborers aren’t slaves, there is no injustice in locking them up and even in a perfect system they’ll all still be there behind bars, laboring away.
One needn’t hold unjustifiable sympathies towards any criminal in prison in order to desire reform.  Reform doesn’t mean “Let the guilty out,” and never has.
        …and it also doesn’t mean “Belittle the suffering of those who endure slavery,” either.

betterthingstodothandrugs:

The word guilty is loaded, it implies wrongdoing. Yet the fact remains the majority of black men incarcerated are in that position for non-violent crimes. Namely possession and distribution.

JTEM:

What would you think of a white man going into a black neighborhood and distributing drugs? You’d say he was exploiting the people. You’d say he was enslaving them to drugs, all to enrich himself.

You’d be right.

Illegal drugs is an extremely violent industry. You can’t separate violence from the drug trade, you just can’t. And I’m not talking about the lives ruined by drugs, the families devastated by drug use — the people enslaved to drugs, the exploitation of misery. I’m talking about the intentional criminal violence on top of that — murder, muggings and other violent crime.

There’s the crime committed by people trying to support their drug habits. There’s the violence between suppliers and the police, “turf” struggles between dealers and even whole sale murder by the cartels. You’re selling drugs and you’re part of that — no excuses. You are part of all that and you chose to be a part of all that.

And, yeah, you just confirmed my point about people not being innocent. They’re guilty. They’re in prison and they deserve to be there. They don’t get a pass because of their skin color. Nobody does.

Also being a prisoner throughout history has been synonymous with being a slave.

No. I mean it. You’re demeaning those who suffered under slavery — those who are suffering right now — by pretending that putting convicted criminals to work is anything like slavery.

Nobody is advocating that we pay inmates. Nobody is advocating we let rapists or murderers run free.

Then you have no call to action, do you?

What you’re saying is we should stick with the status-quo.

I made it quite clear that I DON’T support the status quo, that I believe that our entire criminal justice system should be overhauled. I was just pointing out that these prison laborers aren’t slaves, there is no injustice in locking them up and even in a perfect system they’ll all still be there behind bars, laboring away.

One needn’t hold unjustifiable sympathies towards any criminal in prison in order to desire reform.  Reform doesn’t mean “Let the guilty out,” and never has.

        …and it also doesn’t mean “Belittle the suffering of those who endure slavery,” either.

(Source: fuckyeahsocialjusticesally)

242 notes View comments (via nolife-likelowlife & fuckyeahsocialjusticesally)Tags: Prison Criminal Justice Slave trade Race Skin Color PoC Courts Jail Labor Work Job Reform System Legal Law submission

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    That’s perfect, because someone forgiving me insinuates I’ve done something wrong.
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    We’ll get right on that! High on the priority list.
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    Do they understand that, as descendants of people that most likely had different tribal heritages and who were...
  11. seamofconsciousness reblogged this from cali-jugend and added:
    Those of us who don’t subscribe to your pathetic religion don’t want to be forgiven.
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    But all that would do is create another universe where slavery never happened. Where it still would have in our...
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    I never thought I’d reblog one of these, but dear god I can’t.
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  19. loryisunabletosupinate reblogged this from jonaki and added:
    oh damn white-guilt white people piss me off and so do PoC who won’t forgive the entire race of white people for slavery
  20. yackiteeyack reblogged this from maddygorm and added:
    Mad dawg strikes again^
  21. maddygorm reblogged this from snitchblade and added:
    I’ve got a black friend
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    So accurate.
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    1) forgiveness does not inherently have a link to religion. 2) this blog has nothing to do with fighting anything....
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