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jtem, I think the reasonable position would be to find a balance between total self sacrifice and total selfishness. Of course society is the most important thing, but ultimately a successful society needs to allow people the opportunity to become successful. We don’t want taxes too low, because the state needs enough revenue to function, but we don’t want them too high either.
So, the only fair tax in existence is the income tax, it’s the only tax that’s means tested, the only tax that’s based on your ability to pay, and for that reason it primarily falls on the rich… and it’s the only tax they keep cutting & cutting & cutting.
The 1% have thrown America under the bus. The 1% uses it’s clout, it’s money and influence, to hurt America. America is weaker today than ever before since the 1930s, and this is entirely due to the special interests led by the 1%.
I wouldn’t say that it’s every time I challenge him on a claim, but it’s close to every time…
(read some choice quotes from 20 year old me)
i’m still angry at the people who voted for Obama (and the RINOs/moderates).
I’m angry at the RINO conservatives — “No compromise! Give us a candidate that’s so out of step with the mainstream that people laugh at him, or we’ll all stay home!” — and I’m angry at the liberal Democrats who oppose everything Obama has done, yet voted for him TWICE and defend some fictional character they pretend is Obama…
"Obama closed GITMO, didn’t sign the cuts to food stamps program, refused to renew & expand Bush’s tax cuts, got us to stop meddling in places like Libya, Syria (etc)…"
To summarize for you, during the first four years of Clinton’s Presidency, GDP averaged 3.2% growth. Disappointing numbers for an economy following the 1991 recovery and the reduction in consumer price inflation.
Reagan’s first term saw the worst recession in America since the Great Depression. As for the rest of his term:
During Ronald Reagan’s presidency, the wealthiest one-fifth of American households (those who naturally owned the most stock) saw their incomes increase by 14%. Meanwhile, the poorest one-fifth (who presumably owned no stock) endured an income decline of 24%, while the incomes of the middle three-fifths of American families stayed more or less flat.
Poverty GREW under Reagan, it shrunk under Clinton. And, again, you’re focused like a laser beam on “Economic Growth” when that’s never been the goal. The goal is prosperity for all, and wages grew EVERY YEAR under Clinton.
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