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Here’s a handy A to Z guide to U.S.-backed international crime.
In the 1980s, the U.S. worked with Pakistan and Saudi Arabia to overthrow Afghanistan’s socialist government. It funded, trained
The U.S. suported Afghan rebels against the Soviet puppet state. Yes, Saudi Arabia — our pimp — dragged us deeper & deeper into the conflict, but it’s not like we had any choice. As you sometimes know — when it assists your agenda — the U.S. government is at the mercy of the special interests. Our government doesn’t make policy, it has policy dictated to it by the special interests. Amongst the most influential is Saudi Arabia.
Saudi Arabia is not only rich enough to buy all the influence it wants, but the developed world is at it’s mercy because of it’s dominance of the world oil market.
Anti American swill know this, but only when it advances their agenda. And they conveniently forget it all when their agenda requires it….
Hey, why are you being an anti western, anti American shit? Ordinarily that would be annoying, doubly so on the anniversary of 9/11. And while you're running cover for radical Islam, let me ask you this: How did Islam expand out of a small corner of Saudi Arabia? It appears that you're thinking "Correspondence Course." You're wrong. It spread by the sword. Nearly all the Arab world isn't Arab. Their identities, languages & religions were squashed by Arab invaders. Arab Crusades.
Excuse ME. I’m not being anti American, Why is pointing out what we are doing wrong anti American? I am a Vet with Vet ancestors and Vet children. i have always stood for America. I’ve already had one child come back from Iraq with cancer after his 2nd tour, with another one still eligible to go on this third round. I’m pointing out we ain’t GOD. How did Christianity spread out of one small corner of the Roman Empire??
One of the things you pointed out was the frigging crusades! I mean, if it was bad for Europe it was WORSE for Islam!
Here’s a hint: What was your call to action? What is your call to action now? You claim you’re not anti American, so what is your solution, your call to action? I doubt there are many policy positions which we disagree on, yet I somehow manage to not shit on the memory of those murdered in 9/11… It’s not part of my strategy…
What infuriates me about do-gooders is you always chuck out what you know in order to reach your moral posturing. You know our government is easily manipulated by the special interests. You know that policy is dictated TO our government, that our government doesn’t make it. It’s one of the reasons why you agree that rulings like Citizens United must be overturned. You know this. And then you go on line and wail & ache about the government & the people as if the same folks carrying out & paying for these policies deserve any & all blowback from them…
Well I’ve got news for you, what the 1% knows now pretty much every last foreign government has known for 100 years or more: The U.S. government is easily manipulated. Sometimes they do it directly, but that runs the risk of getting caught (as China & Israel have on occasion). More often they just hire lobbyists. Yes, Israel has a powerful lobby in the United States, but by no means the biggest middle eastern lobby. That one goes to Saudi Arabia.
Our government is everyone’s bitch. Yes you don’t like it, I don’t like it but that’s no reason to blame us, or so much as hint that the victims of 9/11 deserved their fate. The Saudi’s were never shy about admitting that they had been lobbying us for a bigger & bigger role in Afghanistan against the Russians. Not only are the Saudi royals super rich, but with their hands on the oil they can pretty much dictate terms. So it should have been no surprise when Woodward revealed that the Saudis had been lobbying for an invasion of Iraq for quite some time. They even rewarded us with a hefty increase in oil production to make up for the loss of Iraq to the market. And then there’s Saudi Arabia’s long term proxy war in Yemen. Surprise-surprise, guess who’s intervening in Yemen? And guess again who’s VERY interested in what’s happening in Syria? Which forces us to be interested, because they’re our pimp. Of course, the Saudis never like doing anything themselves. A good Muslim in not allowed to make war on a Muslims. But, a good pimp is allowed to order his bitch in…
So, yes, you are anti American. Watch who you blame, how you define the problem and where your sympathies lay. CALL TO ACTION!
What is the solution? It’s not, in my book, to get rid of the government or the people. It’s to close the door on the special interests. If we ban organizations from American politics — including all soft money — we disarm the special interests. We stop the bad policies.
It’s not just an issue of drawing borders. When al Qaeda attacked NYC and DC on 9/11, they had 30 million dollars in their accounts. These Islamists that are attempting to conquer Baghdad have already seized a central bank, oil fields, and manufacturing centers and have about 450 million dollars. They are attempting to create an Islamic caliphate. That would be terrible not just for the United States, but for global civilization. This evil needs to be radically and violently snuffed out, in my opinion.
Honestly, what did you think was going to happen? Given all we know about the middle east, given it’s entire history, are you conservatives really so stupid that you thought George Bush was going to make Iraq MORE STABLE by invading and installing a government with U.S. finger prints all over it? You thought the Iraqis were all just going to dance in the streets, loving the first ever Arab democracy in the middle east because the Americans forced it on them?
Nothing that has happened wasn’t ordained from the beginning. Nothing. Nobody in the middle east cheered our arrival when Bush invaded. Just the opposite — it created loads of brand new terrorism out of thin air, radicalized a significant chunk of the population. Nobody was blowing kisses at America and Bush when the NeoCons invaded, nobody took a look at the NeoCon invasion and said;
"That’s it! That’s exactly what we need! The only reason why the Arab world lacks democracies is because none have been forced on us by the Americans!"
You’re insane. You’re emotionally twisted. You can’t even reason here, your cognitive functions are strangled by your emotions: “OBAMA HAS AN IRONIC D NEXT TO HIS NAME SO IT’S ALL HIS FAULT!” No government was ever going to survive our withdrawal. It was never going to happen. The militants, the radicals were always going to overthrow anyone with so much as a hint of American fingerprints on them and convert Iraq to a radical Islamic state. This has always been unavoidable. If it wasn’t THE plan, if it wasn’t what you wanted and endorsed from the beginning then, well, that just proves you’re insane. Because, yes, anyone who actually thought about it for a moment, invested some real thinking, could have concluded nothing BUT what we are seeing. If anything, they’d be surprised that it took as long as it did.
(I know I am)
You don’t give a shit about Iraq, you don’t give a shit about the troops and we all know it because the time to do something about this problem was BEFORE the invasion, BEFORE your gods launched an unnecessary war, bankrupted our government & destabilized the entire middle east.
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